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I've said it multiple times in the original node This was not intended as a hacker tool!!!
I recall nothing in the original version, nor even the version standing now, that disclaims it as not being a "hacker" tool.

As to why I keep saying it, it's because it's true for me that my impression was that it was a "hacker" tool. You cannot disclaim that. It may not have been what you intended, but you cannot redefine what I thought when I first reacted. So I do not post "false assumptions". I post my initial conclusion. And while you now claim that I'm incorrect, I see no reason to rewrite any history.

-- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker

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by Marza (Vicar) on Oct 05, 2002 at 21:11 UTC

    merlyn you sure get combative when challenged on your assumptions. You don't know why he wrote the script. Your conclusion is based on an assumption

    You could have avoided this whole mess by using a little tact and offered some wisdom. But with typical chest beating you basically declared him to be a wannabe hacker and or a script kiddy.

    It's rather funny as I seem to recall you getting incensed that people keep stating to you that you think that code should not be posted here unless it is written by someone of your level. Then I read in another thread:

    The message that triggered this thread was not written by either an expert in security or an expert in Perl. It's a Perl beginner program, whose purpose initially appeared to be to be nothing more than a junior cracking tool.

    This place is supposed to be about learning. A port scanner can be abused as many other things. Everything does not require a disclaimer. We don't see them on Guns and shoot for that matter I guess we could put a disclaimer on pens as they technically could be used as a weapon.

    And what is this?

    Furthermore, and more importantly, we cannot have the Monastery seem like it harbors people who experiment with cracking tools. We must take a stand, or it will undermine what I believe to be the purpose of the Monastery. Now, if vroom counter-argues, I'll be happy to listen. But that would be a pretty decent shock, given that the Monastery is now also an element of YAS/TPF, which inherited the PerlMonks mission, which also inherited the Perl Institute's mission, of which I was a founding board member (and significant contributor) of both. Stonehenge has also been a significant contributor to YAS/TPF. If vroom chooses to harbor crackers, then I will ask the YAS/TPF board to disown the Monastery. You can't have it both ways.

    You going to hold your breath until you get your way?

    Rather then assuming, you might ask some questions. This place does not harbor crackers. Awhile back a person posted a rather lame virus script Problem with quotes. People challenged him and he tried to hide his mistake by changing the original post.

    Just admit it. Your intent was right but your approach could have been better

      Your intent was right but your approach could have been better
      They will probably put that on my gravestone.

      Fair cop on this one. Thank you for acknowledging the intent.

      -- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker