I wasn't side stepping any issue. I was just pointing to a language that was created not to have "problem"s as the one you described regarding push. Python has a much more regular syntax than Perl - and that's what you like push to have.

I don't think the syntax of push is a problem, not at all. By being non-regular, it's easier to program, and to learn. One doesn't have to know references to be able to use push.

Abigail