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in thread Free Open Source Everything?

Explain to me please HOW you are prevented from contributing?
The license says, very plainly, if you make a big change, send it to the team. This language seems to ENCOURAGE changes, not prevent them. The idea that because you cant freely redistribute your changes you are prevented from changing it is ridiculous, I dont see anywhere in the license where you are prohibited from changing things. The very idea that you think you are suggests you didnt read clearly - again, it says plainly that if you make a big change just submit it back to the dev team. I still dont understand HOW that prohibits ANYONE from changing the code. If a license has a clause specifically regarding changing code and submitting said changes, that license infers you are allowed, even encouraged to change it!
Regards,
spectre
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RE(4): Free Open Source Everything?
by antihec (Sexton) on Jul 20, 2000 at 21:13 UTC
    I didn't state anywhere that the license forbids contributing.

    To cite you "The very idea that you think (that) suggests you didnt read clearly" :-)

    The license just sets things up in a non-free way, and causes me (and I fear maybe others, too) to not want to contribute to the code. A simple issue that could easily be dealt with by the powers that be.

    And trust me I did read the license. My intention is not to bash at this license. I just thought it may be worth pestering you, if someone would see how good free licensing (and I'm not picky here, like some people are - bsd, gpl, artistic, you name it) may be important to open source development. And actually perlmonks might benefit from it. I view it as a very nice feature. If you find a feature is missing from perlmonks in your opinion, you may speak up, don't you? Whether it gets implemented or not, is not as important to me as may seem right now. But if it's going to be anyway, which seems the case, I'd like it move up the ToDo List some places.

    Sorry for being an annoyance.

    antihec

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      Ah, I understand now, it's a moral objection to contributing that keeps you from wanting to do so - well, here's to our differences, that's what makes us special.
      Being as you wouldnt want to contribute to anything that isnt free, you must have a problem with working for a company that wants to make a profit off of software too, I take it?
      Being as that I work for such a company, and I like getting paid for my job, I'm glad I dont have a moral objection to writing non-free software.
      Regards,
      spectre
      The license of the software is not a "feature." This site and the code that runs it is owned by the EBC and by vroom, not by you. You can ask vroom to change the format of the chatterbox, you can suggest a modified header, you can even code one and submit it if you choose. But you have no right to demand a change in the licensing of the site.
      - email Ozymandias
        Where did I demand anything? I know this code ain't owned by me, but that doesn't keep me from wishing it were owned by the community. (Even more as vroom and the EDC seem to suggest that - in the Pre-License and in vrooms post. If it's gonna happen anyway, why not do it now?)
        I don't think I've got _any_ right to demand _anything_ about that code.

        But I have the right to point the people here to a thing that I think is important.

        I think you were overreacting from your first post to this thread, and it doesn't get better. You were overreacting in Abigails thread, too, so maybe that's the way you are.

        You don't get my point, cause you view me as a License Nazi, and so you don't wanna get my point. With that attitude towards people you don't know, you lose out on quite a bunch of interesting things in life.

        antihec

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