in reply to Re: Re: Re: Re(2): Lesson Taught
in thread Teach him a lesson with facts

"Just to quickly point out something. The loop is not my purpose either. The original purpose to have the loop there is to make the testing result comparable."

I'm probably pissing into the wind in this thread but the point about the loop test is that it's not representitive of Perl on the whole and there is always an example that will match a point of view.

But even if it was representitive of overall execution speed, execution speed is generally only a small factor in application development. For most software 1 second versus 2 seconds is easily offset by ease of use, development time and many other factors.

As far as the emotion of some of the posts, well this is a site devoted to Perl. If someone went to Javajunkies and gave a C > Perl > Java argument, I bet you would get the same reaction. You don't go to someones's house and attack them and argue about how much better your X is than their X and expect a balanced, level-headed argument. Might as well go to a catholic church and debate abortion. It's just not the appropriate place.

-Lee

"To be civilized is to deny one's nature."

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re(2): Lesson Taught
by Anonymous Monk on Feb 24, 2003 at 06:00 UTC
    LOL, I am a troll, and you are absolutely a troll feeder ;-) Did they down vote you? I guess they up voted you, because your good attitude...

    Never mind.

    Obviously the wording of my very first post is quite strong. To be frank, I am not stupid enough to take a loop testing as a silver bullet to kill Perl. More importantly I don't want to kill Perl, and to be more realistic, why should I and can I?

    I can understand this is a Perl community and there is no such thing on the earth as absolutely fair and balanced...

    Again to be frank, if I am a troll, I only take 50% percent responsibility for that very first post. Who should take the other 50%? those trolls of a different kind. It is their ignorant towards computer science, provoked me, and made me decided to shock them.

    If you find some one is seriously sick, you want to give them strong medicines.

    I am happy that we managed to have a more tech discussion both in this sub-thread and that sub-thread with adrianh and pg.

    I really loved your benchmark, and the facts it revealed. Thank you for sharing it with me.

      Actually trying the use integer bit and seeing the difference was actually made me bite. I figured it was interesting enough to post so instead of starting a 3rd smoldering thread...

      -Lee

      "To be civilized is to deny one's nature."
        The "use integer" bit is actually really interesting. As you saw, I didn't know that pragmas before read your post, and messed it up with "use bigint", and started to talk about 32-bit, blahblah...

        Your testing showed me the use of "use integer" and showed me it worked. That is not something I can test, as you already saw, becaue I have floating math chip installed. My result actually proved what they said in the document for "use integer", something like "if you have floating chipblah blah, you will not see a big difference..."

        This is where people come to help each other, you tried what I cannot, and shared with me, and I tried what you can't, and shared with you.