roger on the we part... it just seemed recently that a bunch of flame war type posts were being front paged... which I'm not sure is a good thing... (I generally only read through a few front paged items, then on to new cpan modules, then sign off and do real work, so my experience recently may have been a bit biased...)
Cheers,
(Taking a deep breath now...)

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Zak
Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate - mysql's philosphy