in reply to Future Programming Direction

What should I do
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Mainly it is about data processing, conversion, done with some intelligent logic and algorithms

Well seeing as you obviously already took unnecessary buzzwords 101, I'd say learn Java.

Sorry but sometimes it's just too easy ;-)

On a serious note when I see resumes with lines like the above, I immediately throw them out. They make you sound like you're pretentious and have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Anyone who truly knows their art doesn't need to use buzzwords to describe it. It's bad enough on a resume - why someone would post it on an online technical forum is beyond me.

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Re: Re: Future Programming Direction
by Acolyte (Hermit) on Mar 18, 2003 at 21:17 UTC
    Well seeing as you obviously already took unnecessary buzzwords 101, I'd say learn Java.

    On a serious note when I see resumes with lines like the above, I immediately throw them out. They make you sound like you're pretentious and have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Anyone who truly knows their art doesn't need to use buzzwords to describe it. It's bad enough on a resume - why someone would post it on an online technical forum is beyond me.

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    The whole point of "buzzwords" is to take complex concepts and distill them down into concise teminology that is generally understood. Using a "buzzword" does not require the user to understand all of the obscure technical details behind the concept. It gives the less knowedgable individual some common ground to stand on when discussing the concept with those that are more well versed in the subject.

    Obviously you've forgotten that Perl Monks is a place where developers come to expand their knowledge. Not everyone here is going to use the complex language that you seem to expect. To add injury to insult (yes, the cliche is reversed), your post is purely critical. You haven't provided any useful advice for artist. I'm not surprised that you're puzzled as to why someone would use buzzwords. You can't see that your own post is completely lacking in merit. But then maybe that is why you've hidden behind a cloak of anonymity...

    Look on the bright side though. Your observational skills do qualify you for a promising career in causeway management.

    Acolyte
    Studying at the feet of the masters
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      The whole point of "buzzwords" is to take complex concepts and distill them down into concise teminology that is generally understood.

      Agreed. But sometimes "buzzwords" or jargon can be used as cover for a lack of real knowledge. I think someone that truly understands something can explain it in a reasonably understandable fasion without resotring to jargon. Knowledge of a fields jargon is necessary for advanced work, but not sufficient. :-)


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        Solid point. Thanks for adding a balanced persective to this exchange.

        Acolyte
        Studying at the feet of the masters
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      Hi, I'll clarify. The original poster said:

      Mainly it is about data processing, conversion, done with some intelligent logic and algorithms

      This doesn't tell the average person anything. So when you say:

      Not everyone here is going to use the complex language that you seem to expect.

      It seems you are making the same point as I. I don't know what the original poster was talking about so I can't clarify that, but an example would be "I write programs that generate web pages based on templates" instead of "create dynamic, integrated server-side solutions utilizing algorithms to power our database-driven internet http presence." Bad examples, but I think they show my point.

      You haven't provided any useful advice for artist.

      Actually, I think I provided far better advice than any other posts in this thread (ie Don't believe the BS). Also, His question was one he should answer on his own, nobody can tell him what to learn better than himself.

      So to restate my advice: always strive to truly understand what you're doing. If you can't explain it to your grandma and a 4th grader, you don't know what you're talking about. Avoid useless buzzwords, they only make you seem less intelligent than you are. Don't let anyone tell you what you should or shouldn't learn.

      That's it, I'm out. Feel free to flame amoungst yourselves.

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        You've provided a much more cogent arguement, however I think there is a bit more to be gleaned from the original post.

        It could be infered that the poster's experience includes coding back end scripts for processing data submitted via web page. There are plenty of other uses for Perl which could be suggested. Log munging, directory maintenance and learning OO Pearl come to mind. Throw a few ideas out there. That's one of the reasons we're here, to shed a little light on the nooks and crannies of programming. It might spark some interest and give the person an idea of where they want to go next. It's about pointing out a few of the possible paths, not forcing someone down a particular road.

        Cheers!

        Acolyte
        Studying at the feet of the masters
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