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in thread The Gates of Perl are not newbie friendly.

You make a very valid argument, and I did fail to adequately address certain essential points. So to clarify a few things:

As for ditching their systems with "lots of data", I did suggest alternatives.

if this system was directly facing the Internet, I would set up and run OpenBSD

I'd properly administer basically any of the open source *nix-like distributions, and probably end up with a better track record.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Gates of Perl are not newbie friendly.
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 20, 2003 at 04:18 UTC
    And my experiences have been all over the map. I have introduced a variety of people to Linux and Perl. Sometimes one, sometimes the other, sometimes both. My experience is that I usually have the best result when I only change one thing at a time, unless they happen to not know anything very well in which case it works best to hand them a configuration that they have good local support for.

    As for introducing people to Linux, my favorite is to show them Knoppix and go from there.

    And about your "properly administrate" comment, well it seems that you are strutting around claiming to have the biggest private parts. When I see that, I just wish that the idiots involved would put their clothing back on...

      As to your last paragraph, security has about 1% to do with the base OS and 99% to do with the administration. Installing Open BSD and thinking you'll have a secure system is only something a fool would do. Their 1 root hole is a joke, I could throw together an OS with zero root holes in the default install, it just wouldn't do much.

      Anyways, I'm done with this thread.