in reply to How would you fix Java?
Many of the threads about Java on this site are started with trollish negative statements about Perl in comparison to Java (often quotes from managers or co-workers). These are bound to draw angry responses. However, if you look at threads along the lines of "what other languages should I learn?" you will find many people recommending Java.
I think most serious programmers should learn Java these days, because there are a lot of interesting ideas being published in articles and books about Java. For example, Martin Fowler's book Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture has examples in Java.
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