in reply to New UI Framework Seeks Feedback

It's quite hard for me to find out whether I like what you're trying to do: I don't have a JAVA-enabled webserver (and am too lazy to install one on my Linux machine) and it looks like your supporting IE 6 only (I'm using Safari right now). So some screenshots would be nice.

The way I understand the problem, I might just as well try to solve it with a wxPerl app using database or LWP queries to get work done remotely.

That said, I think you would get more and better feedback if you took the time to write a meditation about it: Formulate the problem you're trying to solve, then explore your approach to solve it. That would make it much easier to make sound comments on the work you've done.

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Re: Re: New UI Framework Seeks Feedback
by mvc (Scribe) on Apr 27, 2003 at 23:12 UTC
    1. You do not need anything Java for doing Perl Rui work. The installation instructions detail the requirements
    2. A screenshot is on the site
    3. The partitioning you propose is fine. You propose a thick client talking to web services or a shared database. For some scenarios, partitioning on the presentation layer is better:
      • No client download/install of Perl, application (Shipping standalone perl apps on Win32), drivers, etc.
      • No need to think in two places (client + server) and write partitioning code (e.g. for using the web services)
      • Roaming support without writing roaming code
    4. Mozilla client will be available very soon. No plans for Safari/Opera. It is very easy to write a Java/wxPerl/Flash/etc. client.
    5. Is a feedback request a SOPW or a Meditation? Whatever the answer the site explains everything, and there is even a YAPC paper online
    Monks are not feeding back on this because of the IE6-only requirement you mention, and perhaps because this is a strange technology.
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      Hello mvc,

      seems I didn't read your site carefully enough. I somehow thought that I need both the Java Server and the Perl API. And I couldn't/still can't find a link pointing to your screenshot. Probably because it was late in the night :).

      The requirements for Perl look fine to me; I might now even be tempted to try it out. Not having to have a local installation of perl and all the modules (Thanks for pointing to one of my articles :)) definitely is a plus.

      The only thing that's holding me back now is that my platform is not covered -- but I think once you cover IE6 and Mozilla, it should be fine. It's a special product that probably doesn't need to run on every browser on this earth.

      Why the Monks are not feeding back is always somewhat hard to estimate... I think in this case it is not due to requiring IE6, because we have quite a number of Perl Win32 users here. It is probably more because they don't get your question. It seems to be too broad to me. That's why I suggested writing a meditation about it, and then you might even ask some concrete questions:

      • Is this something you find useful? Can you think of projects to use it in
      • What do you think about the design?
      • What features would you want to see?
      • ...

      Note also that monks tend to not like to have to go and browse through other sites in order to be able to make comments. If you do it this way, people will be confused, like I was :) because I didn't take enough time to browse through the site. It would be really better to sum it up nicely and ask the right questions if you want some good feedback. It's more work, but the monks tend to honour that kind of effort. And yes, I'd consider that a meditation, not a SOPW.

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