Re: Re: "There are some stunningly novel ideas in Perl" -- Paul Graham

Damn man. Have you ever even used the languages you're trashing? Prolog and Lisp are two of the greatest languages even designed. They're extremely successful (far more than Perl). Just because they're not the best languages for writing your little cgi formmail scripts doesn't mean they're bad languages.

C++ is a total mess, and I don't know what you think a "hacker" is, but it certainly isn't any of the people who designed Java. Look at Joy, he thinks we should stop all technical innovation because we're going to end up killing ourselves. Is that a hacker mentality? I think not.

I'll gladly elaborate on my position once you have the slightest clue what you're talking about. Until then, adios.

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Re: Re: Re: "There are some stunningly novel ideas in Perl" -- Paul Graham by demerphq (Chancellor) on Apr 29, 2003 at 14:55 UTC
Damn man. Have you ever even used the languages you're trashing? Yes. Ok, what I did with APL barely counts. And if you read my mails instead of reacting to them you would notice I never trashed anything. Just because they're not the best languages for writing your little cgi formmail scripts doesn't mean they're bad languages. Ive never written a formmail in my life. Ive never written a CGI in anger. Presumably you think that doing so is insulting. I suspect that the many many monks that do use Perl in this way are less than impressed. Second as I said earlier, if you read the mails you would see I never said any of these languages are bad. but it certainly isn't any of the people who designed Java. Where did I suggest that Java was written by hackers? adios. --- demerphq _{<Elian> And I do take a kind of perverse pleasure in having an OO assembly language...}	[reply] [d/l]

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Re: Re: Re: "There are some stunningly novel ideas in Perl" -- Paul Graham
by demerphq (Chancellor) on Apr 29, 2003 at 14:55 UTC

Damn man. Have you ever even used the languages you're trashing?

Yes. Ok, what I did with APL barely counts. And if you read my mails instead of reacting to them you would notice I never trashed anything.

Just because they're not the best languages for writing your little cgi formmail scripts doesn't mean they're bad languages.

Ive never written a formmail in my life. Ive never written a CGI in anger. Presumably you think that doing so is insulting. I suspect that the many many monks that do use Perl in this way are less than impressed. Second as I said earlier, if you read the mails you would see I never said any of these languages are bad.

but it certainly isn't any of the people who designed Java.

Where did I suggest that Java was written by hackers?

adios.

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