The main thing I dont like about Perl5 is that the POD are removed and then the file lines are enumerated. This means when Perl says 'error at line 55' it really means an error a line 55 not relative to the way the file is in your editor with POD, but line 55 after I stripped out the POD. This can be very confusing The above link at infotrope.net doesnt for me 8:43 am EST August 1, 2000