•Re: mod_perl vs. mod_php in multi-user environments

Using mod_perl raw in an untrusted environment would indeed be a challenge. However, PHP is more like using HTML::Embperl or Apache::Template.

I've not completed my research, but I believe that if an ISP offered an Apache::Template environment with the proper safe plugins (and no chance to "escape" to Perl), you'd effectively get PHP-like scriptability with TT as the scripting language, and access to the entire CPAN through approved plugins.

-- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker
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Re: •Re: mod_perl vs. mod_php in multi-user environments by crenz (Priest) on May 14, 2003 at 11:15 UTC
However, PHP is more like using HTML::Embperl or Apache::Template. Is this true even if we talk about mod_php rather than using PHP in CGI mode? Basically, I am just astonished that mod_perl vs. perl as interpreter for CGI scripts seems to be so very different to mod_php vs php as interpreter for CGI scripts. I am wondering how mod_php can reap the benefits of being an Apache module without suffering the same consequences as mod_perl (e.g. shared namespace). Or is mod_perl offering much more than mod_php?	[reply]
•Re: Re: •Re: mod_perl vs. mod_php in multi-user environments by merlyn (Sage) on May 14, 2003 at 11:23 UTC
Or is mod_perl offering much more than mod_php? Yes, but I thought I had already made that point in the first step. mod_perl is raw access to every phase of the Apache request and service cycle. mod_php is an Apache::Template-like access to the content phase only and thus far more limited. So to get "mod_perl" to act like PHP, you have to restrict it severely. -- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker Be sure to read my standard disclaimer if this is a reply.	[reply]
Re: mod_perl vs. mod_php in multi-user environments by crenz (Priest) on May 14, 2003 at 16:34 UTC
Yes, but I thought I had already made that point in the first step Sorry, that was a misunderstanding on my part. Because you said "PHP", I thought you meant the PHP interpreter as CGI, rather than mod_php. Anyway, thanks for the good explanations, everyone -- hearing all these things about mod_perl makes me want to use it for a project :).	[reply]