RE: RE: Data extraction from hash problem

Beg to differ, %PhoneBook is lexical, but it's declared lexically for the scope of the entire program (at the top of the page).

Yes, there are betters ways to do it! dmtelf, I would definitely try something like this:

our %PhoneBook = &ReadPhoneBookFile();

sub ReadPhoneBookFile {
   my %TempBook;
   ... some stuff ...
   return %TempBook;
}
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This would have been much more clearer, and our* is the best keyword for global variables like that (a variable used between subroutines without explicitly being passed). HTH :-)

Alakaboo

* I should clarify this. use vars has been somewhat depreciated in favor of our since Perl5.6.0. Since it will no doubt be used prevalently henceforth, and in Perl6, I make it a general rule to use it. If you're running an older version of Perl, you'll need to do:

use vars qw(%PhoneBook); %PhoneBook = &ReadPhoneBookFile();

It's just cleaner to use our! (thanks tilly, ya beat me to it!)

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RE: RE: RE: Data extraction from hash problem by tilly (Archbishop) on Aug 07, 2000 at 00:34 UTC
Unfortunately our only works in Perl 5.6. Perl 5.6.0 is most definitely not ready for production. Try this code to see why not: `perl -e 'my $x = 10; $x = "2" . $x; print $x + 0'` [download] If you don't have 5.6.0 installed the problem is that when you altered $x with a string operation, the number was not properly invalidated, leading to data corruption. But with 5.6.1 (which has a lot of bug fixes) then I heartily agree that our is better. EDIT I was asked where to find 5.6.1. Well, um, you can't. Check back next month. As I understand it 5.7.0 will come out first (next development series), and then 5.6.1 will follow that. But there are a lot of good bug fixes in current bleeding edge Perl's. (I certainly have them on my home machine.) OK, so where do you get that? Um, I don't know. :-( I know where an ftp server used to be with a fairly recent snapshot. It isn't there any more and I don't follow this stuff closely. I can track down instructions for the perforce snapshot, but because of firewalls I cannot test that advice. And I don't even know if that advice will still work given the recent handing over of development responsibilities to Jarko Hietaniemi. (Which is presumably why the ftp server moved.) Visit back here and I will update this when I find a real answer. (If anyone knows then /tell me or post here. Thanks.) EDIT 2 Aren't you glad you visited back? Apparently ActiveState is merely having some technical problems. But there is a private snapshot from the current maintainer available. This is on its way to becoming 5.7.0. Basically avoid anything that says it is experimental. (Uh, you should do that anyways.:-) Believe it or not, I would be more inclined to trust this snapshot than the current 5.6.0. YMMV. EDIT 3 Sarathy claims that their ftp server has been being accessed since Aug 1. So try that and hopefully YMMV from mine. (That machine has more snapshots, and the previous link is only going to work temporarily.) I have no idea what the issue is, it could be local to my home. :-( EDIT 4 Someone else reproduced the problem. There appears to be an active/passive firewall barrier. Set your ftp client accordingly and the Activestate link should work. EDIT 5 Sarathy has announced that there will be at least temporary public http access at http://public.ActiveState.com/gsar/APC/. Plus the firewall issues are being looked at.	[reply] [d/l]

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RE: RE: RE: Data extraction from hash problem
by tilly (Archbishop) on Aug 07, 2000 at 00:34 UTC

perl -e 'my $x = 10; $x = "2" . $x; print $x + 0'
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But with 5.6.1 (which has a *lot* of bug fixes) then I heartily agree that our is better.

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I was asked where to find 5.6.1. Well, um, you can't. Check back next month. As I understand it 5.7.0 will come out first (next development series), and then 5.6.1 will follow that. But there are a lot of good bug fixes in current bleeding edge Perl's. (I certainly have them on my home machine.)

OK, so where do you get that? Um, I don't know. :-( I know where an ftp server used to be with a fairly recent snapshot. It isn't there any more and I don't follow this stuff closely. I can track down instructions for the perforce snapshot, but because of firewalls I cannot test that advice. And I don't even know if that advice will still work given the recent handing over of development responsibilities to Jarko Hietaniemi. (Which is presumably why the ftp server moved.)

Visit back here and I will update this when I find a real answer. (If anyone knows then /tell me or post here. Thanks.)

EDIT 2
Aren't you glad you visited back? Apparently ActiveState is merely having some technical problems. But there is a private snapshot from the current maintainer available. This is on its way to becoming 5.7.0. Basically avoid anything that says it is experimental. (Uh, you should do that anyways.:-) Believe it or not, I would be more inclined to trust this snapshot than the current 5.6.0. YMMV.

EDIT 3
Sarathy claims that their ftp server has been being accessed since Aug 1. So try that and hopefully YMMV from mine. (That machine has more snapshots, and the previous link is only going to work temporarily.) I have no idea what the issue is, it could be local to my home. :-(

EDIT 4
Someone else reproduced the problem. There appears to be an active/passive firewall barrier. Set your ftp client accordingly and the Activestate link should work.

EDIT 5
Sarathy has announced that there will be at least temporary public http access at http://public.ActiveState.com/gsar/APC/. Plus the firewall issues are being looked at.

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