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Agreed, the image as captured by the camera does not contain all the data available at the original scene, but then neither do your eyes!

And as soon as the objects in question come into contact with any existing device that analyzes them (e.g. any light, a stm, etc) they are changed and you will not have an accurate picture of them. So ha!

I Win! ;-P

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by zengargoyle (Deacon) on Jun 19, 2003 at 23:08 UTC

    and if you set up a single pixel CCD behind a filter that only allows a specific wavelength of light to pass through behind a series of holes/lenses that only allow a photon to hit the single CCD and you count the number of hits as intensity and you stop your experiment before you count more than (insert how many bits a PNG can keep per pixel) then when you save the output in a 1x1xbits PNG then it's lossless.

      Actually, this is only true if the CCD has 100% efficiencies -- and that doesn't happen. For instance, typical lab PMT can have their efficiency reduced by several factors. The graph here indicates a maximum of around 30%, although I would swear I have seen manufacturers claiming numbers in the 40s and 50s.

      In fact, I doubt a "perfect observation device" for optical phenomena can exist. I'd be interest if anybody had an example of one. Perhaps a Boise-Einstein condensate at low T could detect photons with 1:1 correspondence if the photon decoupled the condensate, but that's total speculation.

      -Tats

      Update: I should also point out the difficulties with mono-chromatic filters. These are theoretically possible, but to get a filter down to a one quantum bandwidth... is technically extremely challenging. The detector is the bigger problem for sure, though.

        In fact, I doubt a "perfect observation device" for optical phenomena can exist. I'd be interest if anybody had an example of one.

        I have one in my garage actually, I'll show it to you once I get my patents ;-).