in reply to Public and private communication

So, you found the argument to justify why we should do this. Big deal. It's not about arguing your case to have some feature/improvement implemented ... it's about getting someone to actually implement it. Those that do do not get paid for it, and more than likely have more pressing personal issues at hand. Instead of wasting your energy researching why we should do something ... why not instead spend your energy doing that something. This is something that perplexes me: why is it that the same people who ask for site features/changes/improvements are not involved in the group that actually implements those changes? Both you and artist are perfectly eligible to join pmdev, yet you both have not. I am not saying that you ideas are not welcome at all ... they are. But i for one have little respect for talk and no action ... come on folks. We are Perl programmers! There are plenty of monks who, instead of asking for a feature, implemented it on their own time, on their own server (or jcwren's http://perlmonk.org server).

I am quite content with the Monastery. The performance has improved since i joined (it still bogs down from time to time ... oh well). Having a handful of 'me too' posts does not and never will bother me. The more the merrier, as far as i am concerned. If everyone is singing the same song ... that simply validates the popularity of the repeated advice. Want to /msg the author? Then /msg the author!!! Write a one liner that cans the results and copy and paste it if you get sick of typing.

Finally, the reason artist's post was at a negative more than likely has something to do with this post: Re: Why your product is sold?. Whether or not artist deserved those downvotes is subjective ... but after a while, all talk and no action will bite.

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Re: Re: Public and private communication
by zby (Vicar) on Jun 30, 2003 at 13:30 UTC
    Isn't it that only level 8 and above can join pmdev? I am just a few points bellow - and I am willing to join pmdev. I found your post quite rich in information - why did you post it anonymously? I understand that by using that invisibillity hat you can be much more harsh - but it does undermine the reputation of the post.
      Isn't it that only level 8 and above can join pmdev?

      Not AFAIK.You just have to have the spare time and the ability to convince the gods that you'll cause more benefit than harm.

      Update: Oopsie. See tye's reply.

        From (nearly?) the beginning there was an informal rule that you had to be level 8 before you would be considered. This rule was ignored a few times, but I feel that those ended up being mostly mistakes so I don't consider people below level 8 for inclusion in pmdev. They simply don't have enough experience with the site to be able to make changes that fit in well with the character of the site.

        There are other gods and they sometimes do things including adding people to pmdev and I don't speak for any of them.

                        - tye