in reply to A multilingual PM is a GOOD thing
in thread Non-English posts on Perlmonks

...anything else is chauvinism

to quote from an unlikely source, Abigail-II; point 19 of Abigail's coding guidelines post:

"Comments, POD and variable names MUST use English. English is the current Lingua Franca. "

is this chauvinism too? is it chauvinistic to even discuss a lingua franca, or is it a thing that has its place where knowledge is traded?

chauvinism is a charge too easily bandied about; what is desired is merely more clarity, and less noise. The best place to look in perl monks for code is an already an issue: with separate languages for each subsection, the problem would multiply. if it is chauvinism to oppose babel - shoot me.

...wufnik

...in the world of the mules there are no rules

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Re: Re: A multilingual PM is a GOOD thing
by sauoq (Abbot) on Jul 10, 2003 at 18:21 UTC
    to quote from an unlikely source, Abigail-II; point 19 of Abigail's coding guidelines post:

    Those are A) Abigail's and B) guidelines.

    -sauoq
"My two cents aren't worth a dime.";
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Re: Re: A multilingual PM is a GOOD thing
by dragonchild (Archbishop) on Jul 10, 2003 at 19:54 UTC
    A lingua franca is a good recommendation when dealing with something like CPAN, which is a repository for common-use items.

    Posts on PM are not common-use items - they are questions that need answers. If I cannot clearly communicate the question I have, then I am locked out. If I cannot clearly communicate the answer I can give you, then I am locked out. That is chauvinism.

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    We are the carpenters and bricklayers of the Information Age.

    Don't go borrowing trouble. For programmers, this means Worry only about what you need to implement.

    Please remember that I'm crufty and crochety. All opinions are purely mine and all code is untested, unless otherwise specified.

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      The monastery is more than SoPW. Catacombs/CUFP etc. are intended as "a repository for common-use items."

      --
      I'm not belgian but I play one on TV.

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        So what? They can be in different languages ... it's not CPAN.

        ------
        We are the carpenters and bricklayers of the Information Age.

        Don't go borrowing trouble. For programmers, this means Worry only about what you need to implement.

        Please remember that I'm crufty and crochety. All opinions are purely mine and all code is untested, unless otherwise specified.

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Re: A multilingual PM is a GOOD thing
by Abigail-II (Bishop) on Jul 11, 2003 at 11:31 UTC
    Those are my guidelines, for my code. Guidelines I enforce on myself, not on anyone else. Having comments, POD or variable names in more than one language isn't worthwhile, and if a language has to be picked, English it is. And while I don't mind posts in non-English languages, I've serious doubts about the usefulness of postings that use a different language in each sentence (other than translations, quotes, or making a point).

    The main reason I published the guideline was not to have others copy my guidelines, and use my coding style. The guidelines raises a number of points, which I recommend everyone to think about.

    Abigail

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