in reply to Homework threads aren't necessarily evil

I'd just like to nitpick at one subject that I've seen come up several times and it nearly always annoys me. Anything that more or less states that a certain monk is higher/lower than any other hits my nerves. Just a couple of excerpts from your post:

He [diotalevi] was completely within his rights as a PMonk in good standing to make that consideration.

Just what do you mean by this? That diotalevi is a Saint and therefore can do anything he wishes? Or that he has shown that he doesn't consider every node that hits him the wrong way (ie: he thinks before he acts)? Or something else entirely? What if a monk who hasn't been around as long as some of us had considered the node? Would higher monks have chastised him/her for hastily considering nodes? Or would it have been reacted upon in the same fashion? It's hard to say, but I think some hold back their opinions on such matters based on the author associated with a node.

The major resource here... is the access to developers, like tilly, tye, and Abigail-II

Okay, what makes tilly, tye and Abigail-II so special over anyone else here? I can think of a few dozen other names that might as well have been listed as well. Yes, these three monks are indeed a great resource, but putting them up on a pedestel doesn't help anything. Without an entire community contributing, a few monks wouldn't be doing a heck of a lot on their own. Even the littlest guy should have his/her name listed.

It might sound like I'm complaining about nothing or maybe that I'm putting down someone, but I'm not. To make my wish simple, it'd be changing "diotalevi considered the node for deletion." to "the node was considered for deletion" and "... the access to developers, like tilly, tye, and Abigail-II, who are willing..." to "... the access to developers who are willing...". It avoids finger pointing and praising a limited audience. Perhaps just another reason why the XP system is a disappoinment in some respects. Yes, being labeled as a long-time contributing member can be nice, but at what cost? Ignoring the little guy?

Just the opinion of the not-so-big but not-so-small guy.


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Re: Re: Homework threads aren't necessarily evil
by dragonchild (Archbishop) on Jul 25, 2003 at 13:35 UTC
    That diotalevi is a Saint and therefore can do anything he wishes?

    No, that diotalevi is a member of level Monk or higher who hasn't been frozen, deleted, or some other nasty thing. I didn't even know (or care) that diotalevi is a saint. Frankly, I thought he was like level 8 or 9. And, as for hasty considerations ... I have entered into "discussions" with at least two "Saints" as to considerations and/or front-pagings, both as the "discusser" and the "discussee".

    what makes tilly, tye and Abigail-II so special over anyone else here?

    The fact that I could remember their names as monks I have had conversations with over the past two years. They're also monks I personally have learned from on a number of occasions, some of them embarassingly so. There are hundreds of monks who contribute in a similar fashion, new and old, young and old, etc. The reason I didn't list them is I didn't remember them off the top of my head. *shrugs*

    As for your last paragraph ... it's going to be something we're going to agree to disagree on. My personal style is that I always name names as much as possible. I don't believe in (much) tact as a personal article of faith. I believe very much in trying to be as explicit as possible. If your feelings or sensibilities are hurt because of this, I truly am sorry for your hurt. But, I don't apologize for my actions.

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