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liz,
Don't confuse XP with a node's rep. They are different things. You will often hear monk's say that XP is meaningless. It isn't. XP allows you to consider nodes, add a picture to your home node, post questions to Categorized Questions and Answers, etc. The correlation between a monk's XP and their Perl knowledge is meaningless.

When you talk about correlating a node's reputation to the authors XP, you have to consider a lot of things.

  • Was it front paged - automatically skewed numbers
  • Was the author one that gets popularity votes?
  • Was the author one that gets hate votes?
  • Was it one of the first replies?

    And then there is the story of the Saint that has 0 writeups. Yes, you heard me correctly - not a single node.

    Now there is no argument that some of the very high ranking monks are there because they are also very good at Perl. There are some that are there because they are very prolific in writeups which may or may not be of great quality. As long as they are not bad they will likely get one or two ++ from people trying to spend their votes in hopes of getting XP.

    I have personally received many ++'s on a node that was wrong. Why - because of my ranking. Evil begets evil.

    Ok - rant over. I see nothing wrong with casting a vote for the ability to see a node's reputation without affecting it's current value. It is not an original idea - it has been brought up before. I would care to wager that the reason it hasn't been done because the benefit doesn't seem to outweight the work. The people who are doing the work probably feel that there are "bigger fish to fry". Now, you could ask to become a PM devil. See what work is involved - volunteer to take it on yourself.

    If any of this seems inflamatory, I apologize, it is not meant to be.

    Cheers - L~R

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    Re: Re: Re: Googlish approach to voting/XP?
    by liz (Monsignor) on Aug 06, 2003 at 23:36 UTC
      ...When you talk about correlating a node's reputation to the authors XP, you have to consider a lot of things...

      Indeed. As with everything in life, make up your own mind. So there is no XP * Rep = Sense formula, it is only an indication. But knowing the Rep of a node gives you more to decide on, that's all.

      ...And then there is the story of the Saint that has 0 writeups...

      Which is probably a votebot. At least that votebot will be able to get XP without skewing the reputation of nodes with the "tell me" option. And fortunately, nobody will need to correlate its XP with any writeups, so who cares? ;-)

      ... Now, you could ask to become a PM devil. See what work is involved - volunteer to take it on yourself...

      Where do I sign up? Actually, I don't think the actual implementation would be such a big problem. The work will be in the proper documentation and the "cultural" change that needs to follow to make it a success.

      Liz

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        liz,
        I purposely didn't name names in my post, but I assure you the Saint with no writeups is not a votebot. My point was there are so many factors to consider in trying your approach that it seems like a waste. But that is my opinion. I am no more right or wrong than you are. I believe you can send a /msg to the pmdev group to inquire about joining the team.

        Cheers - L~R

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          ...the Saint with no writeups is not a votebot...

          Whether or not that Saint will fail the Turing Test ;-) or not, is not my concern. That Saint is not participating in any permanent manner, so who cares?

          Liz

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