Re^4: A case for neutral votes (same ol' same ol')

So let's say you indeed have done so and now you know that that node is at 11 points. How do you interpret this? What does that mean?

Knowing whether a node has negative rep or not is somewhat valuable in itself. I actually thought of that, though I didn't mention it. Granted.

All your other points still reduce to examining relations of node reps. What you're really looking for is some kind of standard deviation metric. The 71 rep node might have 11.3 standard points deviation, while the 73 rep one has 11.4 standard points. And all other nodes are within 1.5 standard points. Or something like that.

Is that any less information than can be drawn from knowing the absolute values of the node rep? I think not.

On the other hand, just learning about one single node that it has 11.4 standard points is already very useful without looking at any of the nodes. Because it is a relative metric.

Makeshifts last the longest.

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Re5: A case for neutral votes (same ol' same ol') by sauoq (Abbot) on Aug 11, 2003 at 00:15 UTC
So let's say you indeed have done so and now you know that that node is at 11 points. How do you interpret this? Did you even read my reply? Quoting myself: "What that eleven actually means depends entirely on context but it isn't meaningless." All your other points still reduce to examining relations of node reps. About relative node reps, I went on to say, "That might help, as would any contextual information, but it isn't strictly necessary and may not even be available (such as if it is the only reply in the thread.)" And then I listed several examples where the relation between node reps was not as revealing as the node rep itself. What you're really looking for is some kind of standard deviation metric. No, I'm not. Since I'm just saying the same things I've said before anyway, I'll quote from one of my replies to chromatic: "You are a human being, not a series of branching statements, chromatic. You don't need rules like `if ($rep >= $mean_rep_for_frontpaged_nodes && $rep > $mean_rep_for_this_node)`... you just need some common sense. Being human, you won't find it difficult to formulate guesses as to what node rep means in the context that it appears. Furthermore, you will automatically attach a probability (in the form of an intuitive feeling) to how likely your guesses are correct. And, you'll get better at it over time." I went on to point out that "node reputation and experience are part of the Perl Monks environment." And I said, "Being human, we will learn to interpret the cues in our environment no matter how fuzzy they are." Like I said... "same ol' same ol'" cause I've said it all before. -sauoq "My two cents aren't worth a dime.";	[reply]

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Re5: A case for neutral votes (same ol' same ol')
by sauoq (Abbot) on Aug 11, 2003 at 00:15 UTC

So let's say you indeed have done so and now you know that that node is at 11 points. How do you interpret this?

Did you even read my reply?

Quoting myself: "What that eleven actually means depends entirely on context but it isn't meaningless."

All your other points still reduce to examining relations of node reps.

About relative node reps, I went on to say, "That might help, as would any contextual information, but it isn't strictly necessary and may not even be available (such as if it is the only reply in the thread.)" And then I listed several examples where the relation between node reps was not as revealing as the node rep itself.

What you're really looking for is some kind of standard deviation metric.

No, I'm not. Since I'm just saying the same things I've said before anyway, I'll quote from one of my replies to chromatic:

"You are a human being, not a series of branching statements, chromatic. You don't need rules like if ($rep >= $mean_rep_for_frontpaged_nodes && $rep > $mean_rep_for_this_node)... you just need some common sense. Being human, you won't find it difficult to formulate guesses as to what node rep means in the context that it appears. Furthermore, you will automatically attach a probability (in the form of an intuitive feeling) to how likely your guesses are correct. And, you'll get better at it over time."

Perl Monks

Like I said... "same ol' same ol'" cause I've said it all before.

-sauoq
"My two cents aren't worth a dime.";

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