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Hmm... that ties in very well with another pieve of mine: that it is so damn hard to get a reference to the current node, once you posted something, be it vote, or in the chatterbox, if for example you want to mention it to other monks. Sure, it's possible to display the node ID in the title of the current document, which then appears in the title bar, but you can't copy it easily. If you hadn't posted yet, at least you could copy the node ID from the location textbox.

The solution I was thinking of, if you can even call it that, is to make title of the node, a link to the node tself. Thanks to CSS, appearnace could just as well remain identical to what it is now, but at least you could simply reload the file, as "GET", by clicking on it, after which you can copy the node id from the location bar.

Granted, it's still iffy, but it would be a perfect solution for your current grief: you could reload the page by clicking on the title, and then bookmark; or, if you don't mind rightclicking, select "bookmark this link" (using Mozilla's terminology from the popup-menu. There. Perfect.

p.s. I'd still love it if the node id appeared somewhere near the ttile in the format [id://123], which would making copying it even easier. I don't know how obstrusive that would look.

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Re: Re: Why I hate voting -or- a grown man's plea to change vote submission
by PodMaster (Abbot) on Aug 29, 2003 at 06:25 UTC
    At one point I submitted a patch which was applied that had extra entries in the "( print w/ replies, xml )" bit, which was a regular link to the node itself, but many complained about it (ar0n) and it was removed.

    JavaJunkies turns the title of a node (like "Why I hate voting -or- a grown man's plea to change vote submission") into a link, and I'd also like perlmonks to do the same.

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      I, for one, would like to see such a thing. For bonus points, add in a style="text-decoration: none" (IIRC) to remove the underlining. Shouldn't be to difficult a patch, either. (I'm thinking about an alternate method, though, that would change from using hidden parameters (which get POSTed) to adding on to the URL to maintain the node_id, but that won't get finished for a while, due to other pressing matters.)

      Update: There's an easy way to do it, but it requires modifing CGI.pm (search for "Some pople want to have their cake and eat it too!", around line 443).

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        For bonus points, add in a style="text-decoration: none" (IIRC) to remove the underlining.

        If you like that style, you know where to put your CSS. I *hate* web sites that insist on hiding the places I can click by removing one of the few nearly universal visual cues left on the web.

        PodMaster's extra links were removed because there wasn't space for them. I recently reworked the header layout so that there is much more space there now.

        I'd like to add more items to the node heading. I think the section should be listed there (including for replies, similar to how Super Search does it, but perhaps not as terse) as well as the node number. The node number could then be made a link. Just a day or so ago I saw an idea to have it displayed as "[id://234567]" (ah, bart suggested that in this very thread) so it would be easy to cut'n'paste for making links, such as for chatter.

        I'd also like to get the "last edit on" and "last update on" fields that we added so that they work properly and then show the "last edit on" in the heading. BTW, "last edit" means the last time the author (presumably) editted the node content while "last update" means the last time the node changed such that your browser should refetch it (I doubt it will be practical to fine-tune what types of changes affect this as much as some would like, but I think we can make browser caching more sane than it is now).

        It is unfortunate that browsers don't warn you when you try to bookmark the results of a POST. Part of me wants to try to fix forms so the node_id is in the target and not just a hidden field. I think that will be enough work that it won't happen RSN.

        For now, perhaps just having the node ID as a link in the header would work pretty well if "you" got in the habit of bookmarking that link instead of the current page.

                        - tye
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