That's a very good point. Since most of the boxen I use are "open", I'd like to make my scripts user proof...to prevent them from being a sort of "attractive nusance". But I should certainly gather the info if a user does manage to impair the function of an admin script. I think in its current form I will be sent email from cron if something fails, but I might add something in the script to send info on directory/file ownership if it fails.