I guess I still have a philosophical problem with this sort of thing - I want to know what SQL is sent to the dataserver - in particular as most non-trivial problems require multi-table joins to satisfy the request, and such requests can create seriously suboptimal code SQL statements...

I'm a DBA for a system where the front-end is written in Java using WebObjects, and that system suffers from the same potential problems - and just goes against my instincts regarding the care and feeding of database servers...

Michael