Thanks for the info! Just some more info: it works just fine using lynx: I have to links(both consider form submits) and the 2nd is the one I want. When I look at the page info it has one form:'login' with two fields 'clear' and 'ok' - both submit type. print " $browser->form()";yields  WWW::Mechanize=HASH(0x1014345c)->form() and $browser->form_name("login"); yields There is no form named "login" at ./test It also wont let me do clicks yet lynx is perfectly happy!?!?