in reply to Do good Perl practices carry over to other coding?

It sounds like your real question is "why doesn't everyone here use the very latest HTML tricks?" I suspect the answer is a mix of these:

  1. Some of us have been writing HTML for a long time and are still using it the way we learned it because it still works.
  2. There are a lot of people using browsers that don't support the stuff you're talking about.
  3. Most people can't be bothered to write high-quality HTML in some silly little example script.
  4. Many of us don't write very much HTML at all because we use templates and leave the HTML coding to people who are experts at it.
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Re: Re: Do good Perl practices carry over to other coding?
by jdtoronto (Prior) on Jan 20, 2004 at 19:05 UTC
    Yay I'm with perrin on this. Often when we code a small fragment we just do it out of our heads, so you could get any version of HTML that we learned once. Besides, things like CSS and some of its tricks are not totally browser agnostic. It can be hard enough covering recent versions of IE and Netscape, not to mention Opera, Mozilla, FireBird and Konqueror. Notice I keep Mozilla and FireBird separate, their are differences!

    For a production app I will write minimal HTML code so I can prove out the code. Then the HTML/CSS guys start on it. Notice I mention guys, there are two of them to one of me doing the coding. We have just spent $40k for a client and we did a costing analysis last week. Per functional block of code and HTML/CSS (maybe three or four CGI::Application run modes and three or four templates) the average cost is approximately $400. Per block this represents about 2 hours of programmer time but around 5 hours of HTML/CSS time. This doesn't include 'overall design of the look of the site', this is a separate item in the billing. This is tweaking HTML and CSS to be browser agnostic and to cover differences from browser to browser.

    Good practices do carry over. Even to HTML, if you really have to do it yourself!

    Greed, parsimony, hubris and laziness should always characterise a programmer. But so should knowledge, precision, generosity and communication.

    jdtoronto

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      ++ to that!. You forgot "impatience", though ;) (The second programmer's virtue, next to laziness and hubris...) I find myself spending far too much time with (D)HTML and enjoy a break at the Perl Monastery.

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      Allolex

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[d/l]
        And you forgot:

        "An almost fanatical devotion to the Pope!"

        The four secret weapons of the Perl programmer are laziness, impatience, hubris and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope!"


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        Regards,
        Helgi Briem
        hbriem AT simnet DOT is

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