Did you answer "Yes" to my first question?

Yes. With caveats. I would be more than willing to expend some, or even a lot, of my time contributing to giving Perl a future.

OK. Release to CPAN. Report bugs. Fork projects. Spread knowledge.

All completely pointless. Just business as usual. More of the same.

The caveats:

  1. I have to believe that what I am expending my time on, will achieve that goal.

    Pretty much anything less than a full fork of the code base, that ditched the existing revision history and all the out-of-date OS support and huge swaths of other historical gunk wouldn't interest me.

  2. The future being aimed for has sufficient support from enough others, and significant others, in the community to allow it to be seen and announced as a community goal.

    The bottom line here is that unless it garnered the support and active involvement of at least some of the more active and less entrenched guys from p5p; there is no point in starting it.

  3. The time frame for the goal has to be such that it can be reasonably predicted to be achievable before it is too late.

    I know many would say that it is already too late; but I think that if the right goal was chosen, and it could be achieved with 2 to 3 years, I would be prepared to try and help.

What should that goal be? I have my ideas; but it would be pointless to lay them out; my ideas would be a magnet for wide-spread, cursory dismissal.

It would require widespread and public consultation -- no hidden enclaves behind closed doors by small groups of yesterdays in-crowd -- and wide(ish) agreement by a sufficiently capable and influential group of proven contributors and if not totally new blood; at least enough occasional contributors and (perhaps) returning disillusioned, to give a core of willing people to make it happen.

And *ALL* of them would have to have an equal voice in the discussion of what gets done and why; even if not in the final decisions.

And it would have to happen fast. And that means no high horses, entrenched positions, or appeals to higher, prior (historical) authority.

It's not going to happen; but it could with sufficient good will.


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In reply to Re^2: The future of Perl? by BrowserUk
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