Proving (to me, anyway), once again, that it is The Conversation which is important,

Agreed.

How we got there, I suppose, is largely a secondary consideration.

Necessity is mother of invention.

There's a nice cosy world in which necessities are predicted aforehand; discussed calmly and rationally; and addressed before they become imperative.

In my experience; that cosy world doesn't exist. Every single organisation I've ever had any knowledge of has always had to react to the now; no matter how hard they tried to cover off every eventuality.

And far more frequently than the 'nice world - nice people' advocates would want you to believe, it took someone to get angry before change occurred.

We have spam filters and ad-blockers and ex-directories and no cold-call lists because people got pissed off.

History is rife with (mostly far less trivial) examples of the need for 'righteous anger' in order to instigate change. Mostly because 'the authorities' at every level, rarely take a blind bit of notice of polite RFCs; they are easier to ignore than effect.


With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
"Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
I'm with torvalds on this Agile (and TDD) debunked I told'em LLVM was the way to go. But did they listen!

In reply to Re^4: Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts. by BrowserUk
in thread Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts. by BrowserUk

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