Intermediary here... I'm not defending anyone for the reasons you speak here (as I wasn't part of the out-of-band communications), but I would like to say that I've been pissed right off on people and taken the opportunity to blast them publicly. I later regretted it. I'm not saying you will or you need to, I'm just saying that what happens outside of the public eye should be scrutinized carefully before bringing it public.

Again, not taking sides here, you could very well be right. You could very well be upset at outside things, or you could just not like Nick. I don't care about any of that. One thing I do care about is the quality of everything people post here, yourself included. Take a breather bro, sometimes people make mistakes, and due to the major difference in location of our audience here, things do tend to get a bit bent out of shape.

Personally, I've had battles with people here private and public, but the main thing is that we all focus on the main cause; providing assistance for Perl. Hell, Nick and I have even had our share of heated exchanges directly to really put this in perspective. That said, I've also been in phone conversations with him, along with email and other outside communications and I know he's a good person who has everyone on this site's best interest at heart, and despite our differences of opinion, I'd classify as someone that if I was in his area on a trip, go out for a beer with.

Point is, try not to let transient things that someone may do that piss you off, piss you off to the point where you're so angry (I am NOT one to talk here, but I am doing so anyhow). Let it go, bro... this is not SO (yep, it can sure as shit be toxic!), it's Perlmonks. We sort out our differences, avoid those who are *real* antagonizers, and continue on pouring out code and help for those in need. Just like you have been.

I have ++'d your post, because I've felt the way you have, and I know what it's like to feel like I may have been shunned. Posting publicly like this leaves it to the reader to decide on the context of the situation (was it a quick one-off answer where the person didn't have time to fully explain, where there was hope that another Monk would step in to elaborate? Man, I do this often!). Was he really trying to call you out for something else? We don't know, and really shouldn't know unless it's bad enough that warrants a /msg to the gods or the like.

My point is, that negative posts publicly toward someone else aren't necessarily the best approach. I am guilty of this, and I know for fact in my ~2,200 messages, I have a few apologies to match them. For me, I felt I was wrong. You may not, so the situations may not be the same. That said, my advice is to carry on carrying on, and don't let the little things bother you. There are bigger fish to fry, and bigger fish that probably could fry you.

Cheer up, and know that everyone makes mistakes, everyone gets pissed off, everyone says things they don't mean periodically, everyone has beefs, everyone has bad days, everyone has times they can't provide a full-blown explanation for a solution, and the most important fact is that everyone here has the opportunity to move forward with a positive attitude toward helping others, all problems aside.

Move along, keep posting the way you have, and all will be well ;)

-stevieb


In reply to Re^3: Eval block for routine error handling by stevieb
in thread Eval block for routine error handling by PiyaPerl

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