Ahh ... the old "I've-never-seen-it-fail-so-it-can't-fail" argument. Reminds me of the recent poll regarding favorite logical fallacies. I think I would've voted for this one. Arguing from personal experience is one of the worst arguments one can make, primarily because it's so seductive and it's almost valid.

The sentiments you express are exactly what I found troubling in merlyn's and Abigail II's remarks, which amounted essentially to the overwhelming two-part argument: "I have seen this not work, therefore you shouldn't use it". Well for a lot of people it does work, and my point is that we ought to figure out how to make it work even in these rare cases where people get bitten or at least work to increase understanding of its limitations.

While I might recommend that a newbie be careful when using indirection notation my own experience with it has been positive, and you can throw as many merlyn's and Abigails and Larry Wall's at me as you want but their mere luminescence is not an argument. To repeat dragonchild: I never claimed that these problems were not real, only that an outright ban was unnecessary, so kindly keep your flaming to yourself and don't lecture me on argumentation when you clearly haven't paid any attention to what my argument actually is.

"The dead do not recognize context" -- Kai, Lexx

In reply to Re: Re7: OO style: Placement of "new" by djantzen
in thread OO style: Placement of "new" by crenz

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