gryng, I think you misunderstood what brother mdillon was saying. Look at it again:
human ideas absolutely cannot exist without minds
This does not mean that apples don't exist if we fail to notice them. It means what it says. Ideas spring from minds; mdillon made no assertions regarding reality. Now it's possible, granted, that reality cannot be separated from our perception of it (a lot of quantum physicists would argue this), but I that's not what he said.

In fact, it appears that the definition of idea that mdillon was applying was something, such as a thought or conception, that potentially or actually exists in the mind as a product of mental activity. Ideas, therefore, require minds to form them.

Cheers,
Ovid

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In reply to (Ovid - Ideas are not reality - mdillon was right) RE: Unexistence? Wha? by Ovid
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