Thank you for your reply. I am not sure I fully understand what I am doing yet, but I do understand what I did wrong to begin with. I was trying to run stubmaker.pl off the .wsdl file. The problem is - I created the .wsdl by grabbing the contents of the browser and not grabbing the contents of the view source. Once I grabbed the view source to build the .wsdl, the examples worked so I am almost there. I may have clarification questions, but for now I am off. Again, thanks for responding to me.