Have any of the people doing the complaining in this thread actually chimed in on the Module::Build mailing list?

Yes. Bug reports and complaints were ignored. When the subject of releasing packages into CPAN _without_ a Makefile.PL came up the reaction was not pleasant. This decision singlehandedly has turned a large part of Perl community against Module::Build. Encouraging people to release unbuildable modules on CPAN was a _bad_ idea, especially as for quite some time no-one on PM on a Win32 box (the single largest group of users of Perl) could even get it installed.

The paranoia and anger in this whole thread is really wacko.

Thanks for your comments autarch. With an attitude like that its no wonder you dont get the issues being raised here. Maybe if folks like yourself took the concerns of folks like us a little more seriously Module::Build would be in wider use, and recieve wider encouragement. I know that from observing the CB there is almost nobody championing Module::Build here, and I think that is a reflection of the poor comunity relations (and decisions) made by the group responsible.

I wish I could be more positive about this actually. I had breakfast with Ken once and I know he is a nice guy. But M::B has definately managed to turn me completely off, and I say that as someone who thought Kens ideas when he presented them were good. (Although iiirc I made the point that breaking the existing Build process was a bad plan even then.)


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demerphq

    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
    -- Gandhi

In reply to Re: Re: Re: Module::Build and the PPM by demerphq
in thread Module::Build and the PPM by barbie

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