This is fair enough, but I haven't used frames in many years. (You're right, frames suck.)

As for moving to dynamically produced pages, well I have predominately dealt with dynamically produced pages from day 1. (I'm primarily a Perl programmer, I consider web work very secondary.) My comments are made in that context. As far as I'm concerned, the biggest way that dynamic differs from static is that you can automate repetitive stuff in a template. (In fact you pretty much have to.) This gives you design options that static does not.

I grant that CSS is designed to display better on very small screens and audio displays. I've never been told that making that work is a business requirement. OTOH in trying to discourage tables for layout, the CSS folks made using tables far more of a PITA than it has any right to be. As far as I'm concerned, I should be able to stick a style on a row and have it apply to the cells in the table. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

Now we can go through the arguments for/against using tables all day long. Let me just say that every few assignments I wind up having to display a tabular report. (Could that be because I'm dealing with data??? And tabular tables are a natural representation of it? Just possibly...) And every time I find that the design of CSS gets in my way.

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