Having you been reading what I've written? Or just picking out random phrases and responding to those. You have stopped trying to address the issues...and I am tired of repeating myself.

Lvalue subs as defined in P5 have--by the overwelming judgement of the opinions expressed on this site--fundemental issues with validation.

Type validation is no answer. You cannot replace everything you can do with:

die 'Bad value!' unless substr( $attr, $_[1], $_[2] ) =~ $regex;

with a type definition. Nor with a tie, because those parameters will not be available to it. Nor with a trait for the same reasons.

The only mechanism offered to correct this in P6 does not adaquately address those issues. Without some change to the muted solutions, the same problems will become enshrined forever in the trap of backwards compatibility.

They could be addressed now, before that comes to pass. But, if everyone buries their head in the sand saying "Larry's always right"--then they are ignoring history.


Examine what is said, not who speaks.
Silence betokens consent.
Love the truth but pardon error.

In reply to Re^11: Assignable Subroutines by BrowserUk
in thread Assignable Subroutines by dragonchild

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