As I've, (I hope correctly), explained in the other thread, but I'll summaries here also to assuage any fears, threads created by call C APIs (pthreads_create()/CreateThread()/_beginThread()/other) will be completely unaffected by any memory considerations associated with Perl's cloning of Perl data.

They would possibly be affected by the changes to process stacksize settings as I described in another recent thread--if they choose to use implicit stack size settings, but that's less common in C/C++ as the have access to the calls/parameters to use explicit values.

Anyway, part of what you're hoping for seems unattainable, unless you accept a trade-off: you can economize on memory and runtime if you can specify up front exactly how many threads you intend to use. That's great, but isn't there a whole class of apps whose defining trait is the ability to start new threads on an as-needed basis (not knowing in advance how many will be needed)?

Yes. That is the problem in a nutshell. Creating a "factory thread" very early in the script before anything else heavy is loaded is relatively easy to do. Even passing coderefs (which are allocated on the heap and (I believe) threadsafe), to the that thread factory so that it can spawn the new thread from a lightweight environment should be possible. The real problem comes in transferring context, and parameters, and retrieving results.

I'm convinced it is possible, I just haven't put the right set on incantations together yet. At least, I hope that is the problem.

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In reply to Re^2: threads: spawn early to avoid the crush. by BrowserUk
in thread threads: spawn early to avoid the crush. by BrowserUk

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