I also agree with apotheon. Getting rid of guns doesn't stop crime, since criminals don't bother to apply for permits. All getting rid of guns does is disarm the law-abiding citizens and make them helpless. In point of fact, allowing citizens to carry concealed guns significantly reduces violent crime, since would-be killers and rapists think twice about trying to mug someone if there's a high probability they'll just get shot. Even if they aren't deterred, they won't be committing any more crimes if they're dead, and since 3/4 of all violent crimes are repeat offenses, that should solve at least half of your crime problem right there.

What's the safest country in the world? Switzerland. Unversal gun ownership :) And any area in the US that allows concealed weapons shows reduced crime levels, so I'm a bit confused how the anti-gun lobby still has a leg to stand on. For that matter, making it illegal to plea-bargain doesn't reduce the number of criminals being convicted or pleading guilty, either (this has been tested - criminals just like to confess) so the whole plea-bargain system is basically there for the convenience of criminals and their defense lawyers. We shouldn't go back to the days of back rooms and rubber hoses, but things are getting a bit ridiculous now.

In reply to Re: Principle of Inclusion by TedPride
in thread Principle of Inclusion by apotheon

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