An excellent point.

There are really two issues here.

1) Make Catalyst easy to install as non-root on a hosted webserver, to encourage adoption by a wider userbase.

2) Make installed catalyst as predicatable/reliable as possible.

For 1, perl -MCPAN -e 'install Bundle::CatalystGoodies' or something along those lines is the most attractive option. It should be fast, and it should Just Work.

There is a Task::Catalyst that was supposed to have this role, but it seems to have problems in a variety of environments (even if you're root). As a workaround to that, Matt Trout created the "shadowcatInstaller" script, which does more or less the same thing but using magic to handle a variety of exceptions in a smooth and frienly way. Judging by postings in the catalyst newgroup this "just works" if you're root, but not if you're non-root. However, the maintainer, Matt Trout, has said he is working on getting something out that will Just Work for non root as well.

For 2, I think yes, it may be better to build one's own perl. When you start requiring that degree of control, though, non-root on a shared server may be only an interim solution while you shop for a paravirtualized xen/uml root solution (cheap, suitable for a lighter load), or your own server (more expensive, can have a heavier load).

This has all really got to get integrated into the catalyst wiki somehow...

In reply to Re^2: Catalyst question -- should I build my own perl for running as non-root in a hosted environment by tphyahoo
in thread Catalyst question -- should I build my own perl for running as non-root in a hosted environment by tphyahoo

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