Thanks for all the info kyle. Strange isn't it how the ones most polite are the most knowledgable in most cases. Narveson, it's the whole responding to questions with questions and riddled with attitude that makes these discussion groups / forums all the less attractive. The constant questions and lack of an answer doesn't help anybody (i.e. doesn't give me any help and it doesn't make you look any smarter). I normally wouldn't respond in this way but the little jab about posting the example bit is a bit much. I appreciate any help I get in here but if you can't answer a question and all you can do is ask more questions and waste more time with ignorance I'd sooner you don't respond. Thanks again kyle for the friendly and informative responses.

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