The effort to make things pleasant is just not there.

That is a rather blanket statement and horribly unfair to the people who are trying against all odds to make a difference. There are some real challenges here and they can't just be addressed by waving magic wands or brute force.

Being stalled and puzzled while one tries to figure out solutions to complex problems (like a codebase infrastructure that makes integrating new developers difficult) is not at all the same thing as not caring.

In the same vein being hesitant to contribute because you don't see where you are most needed and can make a meaningful difference isn't at all the same thing as not wanting to contribute in the first place. Hesitancy is just common sense: no one wants to spin their wheels. But it is also a solvable problem - all organizations go through phases where they are better or worse at making changes. And this one has shown, at times, extra-ordinary strength in its ability to reinvent itself (changing the experience system and monk levels comes to mind). The monastery does not lack in either brains or social skills (it has rather a lot of both). We have the capability - we just need to focus it.

You could do a lot to help focus it, by saying specifically what specific events, history, or actions (or absence thereof) lead you to feel that the will to improve things isn't there. Your comment about what made working creatively with the code-base difficult for you to work with is constructive. What other concrete observations do you have?

Best, beth

In reply to Re^2: Process for Site Improvement by ELISHEVA
in thread Process for Site Improvement by ELISHEVA

Title:
Use:  <p> text here (a paragraph) </p>
and:  <code> code here </code>
to format your post, it's "PerlMonks-approved HTML":


  • Posts are HTML formatted. Put <p> </p> tags around your paragraphs. Put <code> </code> tags around your code and data!
  • Titles consisting of a single word are discouraged, and in most cases are disallowed outright.
  • Read Where should I post X? if you're not absolutely sure you're posting in the right place.
  • Please read these before you post! —
  • Posts may use any of the Perl Monks Approved HTML tags:
    a, abbr, b, big, blockquote, br, caption, center, col, colgroup, dd, del, details, div, dl, dt, em, font, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, hr, i, ins, li, ol, p, pre, readmore, small, span, spoiler, strike, strong, sub, summary, sup, table, tbody, td, tfoot, th, thead, tr, tt, u, ul, wbr
  • You may need to use entities for some characters, as follows. (Exception: Within code tags, you can put the characters literally.)
            For:     Use:
    & &amp;
    < &lt;
    > &gt;
    [ &#91;
    ] &#93;
  • Link using PerlMonks shortcuts! What shortcuts can I use for linking?
  • See Writeup Formatting Tips and other pages linked from there for more info.