I wanted to see, after two weeks (since my Code vs. Prose discussion), if I could confirm what I suspected. So here are the rep totals of posts in both categories. To add some credence to this, I also took the posts from another monk during the same period (this monk will remain nameless).
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10 total
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12 total
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5 total
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total: 4
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During this period, I made a concerted effort to post code, and to make sure it was good code. I doubt that normally I would have posted as much code, and we would see a much higher weight placed upon "discussion posts." Posts of mine which I had tagged (code, discussion) i counted for both. I'm not so surprised by what I saw (although I admit I had expected a greater disparity in my posts). However, I am pretty surprised to see what I saw in the other monk. Literally a 2:1 rep difference between discussion posts and code posts. The code posts in question were well thought out (I looked hard before I found a monk I felt was posting good code and good discussion), and the discussion posts were clearly good as well.
But if I may be so bold, and draw some conclusions here, I'll second what converter said. To paraphrase, maybe some of us come here and dont want to read code. Maybe we come here to read a bulletin board rather than a perl forum. Maybe we have grown to like this community and we're not as interested in code as the name of our community might lead some to believe (I certainly count myself among that 'some').
Many people have asked where they can find a similar community for Java or for C or for SQL. My answer to that is THIS is that community. While we're all here because we know perl, we're not all here to discuss perl.
I'll hazard a guess and say that I could use the stats pages and a proxy to simply view code posts by ignoring everything except posts rated 20-50 -- and read a lot more code and no rhetoric doing it.
I'm finding myself a lot less productive at work when I read the monastery. When I come here and start using the Super Search to find a post on, say, "Too late for -T at foo.pl line 1", I find a lot of posts that dont actually contain the solution. Not only are we not producing code at the rate we are producing discussion, we're dumbing down and diluting our database of answers and code. While the NodeReaper gobbles up trolls and the Code Catacombs eat our code, what are we left with? Gripes about the lack of content? Questions about how much we sleep? How to impress women?
We've convinced several people whom should be here that we're simply not worth their time. I like it here. I enjoy the company. But I cant keep up the presence here that I have had here because it is cutting into my productivity. Like I said previously, I've gotten almost everything I can realistically see getting out of the monastery. If I want more, I'm gonna have to chase Tilly down and have him teach me more things. I'm going to have to ask Ovid about CGI stuff. I'm gonna have to continue to ask japhy RE questions. And I'm going to have to spend less time here.
There are no solutions. I've been making my opinion known, and I've been much more free with --'s. I've gotten over my fear of not only downvoting nodes I dont think are worth reading (or posting), and also telling the authors. In fact, I think a lot of the people reading this post have heard from me in the last two weeks if I --'d a node of theirs. That having been said, if you agree with me, maybe you should -- this node. I have been abstaining from votes on nodes I consider discussion because I realize they are valuable to some monks (if not really to me). I havent been actively --'ing them, and I wont. But I've been, like I said, much more willing to -- "frivolous" nodes.
So some small requests:
PLEASE use the super search before posting. it saves you time and me time, and it doesnt pollute the nodebase.
make your feelings known with your votes. but also make your feelings known with /msg's. a -- only has a 1/3 chance of costing somebody XP. However, it has a much higher chance of influencing somebody's future posts. If we are so guarded about --'s, the voting system is useless.
post your code, even if you think it sucks. because I want to read it and learn. Or maybe I want to correct you and have tilly correct me on my correction. but code eq growth. and growth is good for everyone.
ah, nuts. no forms in posts?? that sucks.
foiled again,
das dep
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Laziness, Impatience, Hubris, and Generosity.
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