Well, I can say this. Played with Java. Couldn't consider doing anything in it unless it was for money. Same with C, and I've played a lot with C. Delphi and a couple of others as well. Of course, if I were doing it only for money I'd probably be secretive ;) Perl is the first one I've enjoyed coding with for the sake of coding with. It's also the first time I've taken enough interest in a language to push myself to learn more. Including other languages to help me be a better Perl coder. I'm sure not all coders with a little experience feel that way about Perl. But I'm willing to bet its higher than usual. ;) I am a right tool for the right job kind of person, but I really look forward to the jobs where perl is the right tool. Maybe that's the group of programmers you are referring too. It's always enjoyable to answer a question about something you like.