For the record: rhetoric is not trickery, it is "the art and study of the use of language with persuasive effect."

Conveying ones arguments with concise clarity for the purpose of moving the debate forward. Making it clear what your argument is, so that is may be agreed or countered directly, rather than wasting time arguing about what you were trying to say, or what you didn't say.

To make things (accordant or discordant) clear; not to deceive.

On the other hand, your repeated conflation of two such contradictory concepts, whether through misconception or design, is very easy to construe as diversion or misdirection, both of which are forms of trickery.

It would do your discourse well were you not to so conflate.

Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
"Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

In reply to Re^7: c-style for loop versus list for loop, and bigint by BrowserUk
in thread c-style for loop versus list for loop, and bigint by AR

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