I find it difficult to believe that porting 6model to multiple backends is essential to make Rakudo usable for end users in 2011 or 2012.

And none of the Rakudo core hackers spent significant amounts of time on that. Jonathan prototyped 6model in C# because he felt it was the fastest way to do it. He did spend maybe half an hour or an hour helping diakopter to port it lua.

I don't see why you continue coming back over and over again to the little extra amount we spend on investigating cross-VM compatibility; it really makes less than 5% of our hacking time, probably much less.

What any other project would do if it wanted to convince its target audience that it can produce a relevant and usable product: ask them what they need, then make it so.

And that's exactly what we did. After the first Rakudo Star release, we got huge amounts of feedback, and the first thing that nearly everybody wanted was more speed. That's a big reason for 6model -- you simply cannot make Rakudo efficient on top of an object model that requires several elements that the GC needs to consider, just to construct a very simple object with one integer attribute. And you can't make it efficient if the object model doesn't support gradual type.

That's the reason mean reason for 6model and the nom branch of Rakudo, and it does work. Every program that I've benchmarked so far is much faster on nom than on the old master branch.

So, we listened to our users, and we did what the users asked us to do.

Perl 6 - second systems done right

In reply to Re^7: Waiting for a Product, not a Compiler by moritz
in thread Moose - my new religion by jdrago999

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