The patches for RT#67838 are is found in:

5.13.4+
5.14.0+
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I ran your test program with ActivePerl 5.14.0 (32 bit) on Windows, and noticed NO memory increase. (Steady at 99MB.) In fact, I saw in increases only up to that version of Perl.

perl -E"$x=x; $x x= 100e6; <>; $r = \substr $x, 50e6; <>; ord $$r; <>"

AP 5.12.4 32-bit           99M                       148M         148M
AP 5.14.0 32-bit           99M                        99M         148M
AP 5.14.2 32-bit           99M                        99M         148M
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There will be a memory increase if you read the string $$r, but that's how magic works in Perl.

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I looked at the source code at the time of the patch. There is no intentional "prefetching", and testing shows no accidental prefetching:

>\progs\perl5142-ap1402\bin\perl -MDevel::Peek -E"$x=chr(0); $x x= 100
+; Dump substr $x, 50;"
SV = PVLV(0x4de51c) at 0x497b04
  REFCNT = 1
  FLAGS = (TEMP,GMG,SMG)
  IV = 0
  NV = 0
  PV = 0                                   <----- No buffer
  MAGIC = 0x4cc694
    MG_VIRTUAL = &PL_vtbl_substr
    MG_TYPE = PERL_MAGIC_substr(x)
  TYPE = x
  TARGOFF = 50
  TARGLEN = 50
  TARG = 0x4a932c
  SV = PV(0x25603c) at 0x4a932c
    REFCNT = 2
    FLAGS = (POK,pPOK)
    PV = 0x4b36cc "\0\0\0...\0\0\0"\0
    CUR = 100
    LEN = 104
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In contrast with a version that does grow as soon as substr is called:

>\progs\perl5124-ap1205\bin\perl -MDevel::Peek -E"$x=chr(0); $x x= 100
+; Dump substr $x, 50;"
SV = PVLV(0x319e4c) at 0x3bf54
  REFCNT = 1
  FLAGS = (PADMY,GMG,SMG,pPOK)
  IV = 0
  NV = 0
  PV = 0x2f42dc "\0\0\0...\0\0\0"\0        <-----
  CUR = 50
  LEN = 52
  MAGIC = 0x327f94
    MG_VIRTUAL = &PL_vtbl_substr
    MG_TYPE = PERL_MAGIC_substr(x)
  TYPE = x
  TARGOFF = 50
  TARGLEN = 50
  TARG = 0x2f875c
  SV = PV(0x36034) at 0x2f875c
    REFCNT = 2
    FLAGS = (POK,pPOK)
    PV = 0x330f6c "\0\0\0...\0\0\0"\0
    CUR = 100
    LEN = 104
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$ref continues to refer (directly) to the memory allocate to $string.

Neither $ref nor $$ref ever refer directly to $string's PV. They can't because the address of $string's buffer can change as $string changes.

This would require retaining a pointer back to 'parent' string with the lvalue ref

$$ref does have a reference to $string.

Probably difficult to orchestrate.

Actually, that's easy. Just weaken $$ref's reference to $string.

At which point the extraneous (pre and/or post fix) bits of $string are GC'd leaving $ref pointing at just that which it references.

One can't free the start of a memory block. I don't think one can even free the end of a memory block. The string would have to be copied to a new buffer in order to shrink the buffer. Doable, but it would require a temporary "doubling" of memory.

It would also be uncharacteristic of Perl. Perl intentially avoids freeing memory left and right. Shrinking a buffer would be a first!

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