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Morgan Stanley Dean Witter is a huge investment bank with offices world wide and about 60,000 employees, of which 2,000 in IT. The entire company runs on Perl. It's the number 1 language for internal development, followed by C++. They avoid C as much as possible, and Java isn't popular either. As one of their people recently said "What we are doing with Perl goes beyond what Java only promises so far, and we have been doing so for years".

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by princepawn (Parson) on Nov 28, 2000 at 20:33 UTC
    Yes, MSDW is a massive Perl shop. I have interviewed there twice. Once for perm, then I turned it down. And secondly for a contract, and I turned that down. The second time I met CPAN author Brent Power (BPOWERS). He said that they were going to pay all of the 55K for Damian outright, but the Yet Another organization told them to back off.

    They still have Damian scheduled to come there for 2 full weeks of lectures.

    They also have their own internal "Perl monks"/comp.lang.perl.misc inside of MSDW with rapid-fire question-and-answer service.

    One problem they have with Perl is CPAN. First, there are serious legal issues for MSDW in using CPAN. Second, a company with as large and critical a codebase as MSDW cannot afford to use public modules whose API can change on a whim, (e.g., the much-touted Date::Manip has changed its API 4-5 times) or where the support is limited to the email address of someone in a completely different timezone with limited ability to respond.

    There is much to be said for knowing that you can call up someone between the hours of 9 and 5 and get immediate help for whatever problem you may have with the language you are using.

RE: RE: Can perl be anything like Java?
by princepawn (Parson) on Sep 21, 2000 at 16:55 UTC
    Yeah, I can vouch for this because I had an interview with them. Their COMET file transfer app which provides file transfer for all of MSDW's e-business is written entirely in Perl.. with use English by the way.
RE: RE: Can perl be anything like Java?
by turnstep (Parson) on Sep 21, 2000 at 16:21 UTC

    Is that a company mandate, or just an internal culture thing? If the former, it would be the first time I had seen something like that. Interesting. Most large corporations worship at the altar of M$ V[B|C](++)? while knowledgable monks quietly keep things like the mail server running through Perl and Linux skills. :)