Ok put in all those sugestions...no go. Even with carp, im getting internal server error. That error I posted before is from Apache error log, dunno if thats the same. The FDF type is available from Acrobats web site :-p As for running from command thats impossible as I am running this on a remote server that wont allow access to command line. I have a Debian box here on a Sparc, but no idea how to install the fdf module myself (new to linux too)...Thanks for all your help, I will not give up on this and will post the solution when i find it.