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Java on the other hand, comes with well over a few hundred different classes.

A lot of which are redundant and tend to deprecate one method in favor of a method in another class instead of fixing what was wrong in the orginal (java.io.DataInputStream.readLine comes to mind). All of java.io.* could be reduced to a lot fewer classes if things weren't so overengineered.

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Re: Re: Re: There's Only One Way To Do It
by exussum0 (Vicar) on Apr 06, 2004 at 16:24 UTC
    In defense of deprecation, running java using a deprecated function will warn you. As for the java io stuff, it is rather unweildy. Unwieldy? It's a view of how things should be. Some people agree with it, some people don't. It's a problem with complex systems. People are more likely to agree on the simple end of life, not the more complex ones :\


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      running java using a deprecated function will warn you.

      I don't want it to warn me, I want the orginal fixed. One of the major selling points of OO is that you can encapsulate behavior, so DataInputStream.readLine should be fixed instead of moving that functionality somewhere else. You can deprecate methods if you decide the old design was broken, but if it's just the underlieing code that's broken, then you're ignoring one of the big benifits of OO by deprecating it.

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        That's acceptable to a great agree. If it's broken, fix it. But what if the design is wrong. How can they replace the old design with a new design, while supporting the old one, and prevent new people from using the old design? Eventually, you have to break compatability.

        They do this with java.io. They've ripped out some of the internals and replaced it with some of the nio stuff. But some stuff are just bad joojoo.. like Thread.stop().

        -s


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