Monks, I am a newcomer, not only to Perl, but to programming as well. This community has been incredibly helpful with the work that I've been doing. I can't thank you all enough. But, what makes me uncomfortable is that my relationship with you all is grossly one-sided. I really want to return some of what has been so freely given to me here, but I'm not sure how to contribute, given my lack of experience. Any thoughts? Limo

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RE: How to give back?
by myocom (Deacon) on Sep 29, 2000 at 00:34 UTC

    Simple.

    1. Stick around, soak up some more knowledge, and then when you can start answering questions, do so.

    2. Keep asking thought- (and code-) provoking questions. It will help keep the community alive.

    3. And, of course, you could always Buy Stuff. :-)

      Along the lines of #1, perhaps beginner questions should be left to beginner monks to answer, unless they don't do a good job.

        Hrm. That'd be relatively difficult to enforce, I'd think, though I certainly see the value. For one thing, when lots of experts start answering beginner questions, they often get into discussions about which way is (better|faster|easier to read), which can be intimidating to the person who just wants to know why print "Hello world; is printing the extra semi-colon...

(jcwren) RE: How to give back?
by jcwren (Prior) on Sep 29, 2000 at 00:46 UTC
    I was thinking he could buy us all a beer...

    --Chris

    e-mail jcwren
RE: How to give back?
by OzzyOsbourne (Chaplain) on Sep 29, 2000 at 15:39 UTC

    I think that everyone feels uncomfortable with taking more info than they can give, and it's really uncomfortable for the first few weeks. Then you realize that there is really no way to give back as much as you take out.

    This is what community is about. Those who think they give more than they get are either community leaders, or fooling themselves.

    Follow the chatbox, and post where you can. Not everything is code. A lot of the draw of this site comes from its sense of community.

    The path to enlightenment starts with humility, so I'm ++ your post...

    P.S.-I stink at Perl, so please don't think that I am preaching this bit from some mighty place.

    -OzzyOsbourne

      If you poll the people really do give more than they give back to this community, I believe most of them would mention that that is only because they already received more than they can give back.

      It is the nature of knowledge that it is easier to learn than transmit, and far harder to generate than learn. As long as that remains true, the vast majority of those willing to learn will always have received more than we can give back.

      I certainly know that I have!

(Dermot) RE: How to give back?
by Dermot (Scribe) on Sep 29, 2000 at 00:34 UTC
    I wouldn't say it's entirely one sided. People get something from teaching and sharing knowledge so if you didn't ask questions who would they teach ?
      Plus, I DO vote ;)
RE: How to give back?
by jptxs (Curate) on Sep 29, 2000 at 02:47 UTC

    I was right in your shoes about two months ago (well, i'd been doing Perl for a couple years, but never doing it well :) see Thanks and Congratulations

    I just try to sit back and watch, I only vote ++ because I don't know enough to see when it's wrong and when I see questions in the fields that I do know well, Databases, HTML, SQL, I make sure I offer options to solve the problems from those points of view to complement what the monks say about doing it JAPH style.

    -- I'm a solipsist, and so is everyone else. (think about it)

RE: How to give back?
by merlyn (Sage) on Sep 29, 2000 at 01:12 UTC

      Actually, keep ASKING good questions too. =) The best questions draw the best answers. I've learned more from people asking questions I THOUGHT I knew the answer for.

      --
      $you = new YOU;
      honk() if $you->love(perl)

      I have done the first, and after reading up, will do the second. Check your email, if you wish, to see why.