saw both...

i kinda liked elements from each, and cut/pasted code into a custom form class

i mostly program in python now -- haven't touched perl in a while, but need to build something in mod_perl -- i'm building classes in a format i'm used to programming with in python

I know that might sound nightmarish to some, except its a lot easier for me to roll my own code for certain elements than it is to adopt my approach to solutions into cpan modules