Thanks for taking the time to track down that info. For some odd reason this did not take care of the problem, I still get the same error. I am running the same package revisions as you are, with the only difference that I can see is that I am running Linux (RedHat 9) and you are running windows. Its hard (and scarey) to believe that this would make such a difference in the operation of these packages. Maybe I need to uninstall + re-install all packages to make sure that I have complete distributions. Thanks, John