in reply to Re^3: Benchmark.pm: Does subroutine testing order bias results?
in thread Benchmark.pm: Does subroutine testing order bias results?

Woah! This is far deeper into the Perl internals than I have ever ventured. When I recently installed 5.8.4 on Darwin, it was the first time I had ever built from source. So I think I'm quite a ways away from exploring these issues.

For the purpose of solving the problem I faced when I initiated this thread -- determining if an upgrade to one of my modules improves its performance in toto -- I think I'll KISS and use something like the script I posted in response to simonm above.

But could you post some code that illustrates your approach of running cmpthese() or timethese() twice in a run, the first time for getting memory allocated and the second time for results? Thank you very much.

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Re^5: Benchmark.pm: Does subroutine testing order bias results?
by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Jul 18, 2004 at 17:40 UTC

    Sure. As you can see, it's not the lexically first test that gets the biased. It's the first iteration of that test. Which explains why the bias is more pronounced the less runs you do.

    By running all the tests once and discarding the results, you even up the playing field and the seconds cmpthese shows a much better distribution.

    You should also consider shutting down as much else that is running on your box for the duration of the tests. For example, if my dial connection times out during a test, a high priority thread runs for the duration of the reconnect. That can completely skew the results.

    Even using the mouse to pop up the task manager will have some effect. But if this is enough to obscure the gains you have made, it probably means that they are so small as to be subject to random variation anyway.

    #! perl -slw use strict; use Benchmark qw[ cmpthese ]; our $ITERS ||= 5; our $REPS ||= 10000; sub test { my @strings = map{ ' ' x 1000 } 1 .. $REPS; } my %tests = ( Atest => \&test, Btest => \&test, Ctest => \&test, Dtest + => \&test, ); ## Ignore the results produced by this run cmpthese( 1, \%tests); ## These should show more even distribution. cmpthese( $ITERS, \%tests); P:\test>373536-2 -ITERS=10 Rate Dtest Btest Ctest Atest Dtest 4.27/s -- -0% -7% -67% Btest 4.27/s 0% -- -7% -67% Ctest 4.59/s 7% 7% -- -64% Atest 12.8/s 200% 200% 179% -- Rate Ctest Dtest Atest Btest Ctest 4.10/s -- -1% -1% -1% Dtest 4.13/s 1% -- -0% -0% Atest 4.13/s 1% 0% -- -0% Btest 4.13/s 1% 0% 0% --

    Examine what is said, not who speaks.
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      BrowserUk:

      The results were exactly as you predicted. Here is a set of tests of cmpthese() which parallels the results I posted earlier from runs on Win2K and Darwin. I will now try to adapt this approach to my original problem. Thanks for taking the time to look at this.

      #!/usr/local/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; use Benchmark qw[ timethese cmpthese ]; # Usage: buk.pl iterations records die "Need 2 numeric command-line arguments: $!" unless ( @ARGV == 2 and ($ARGV[0] =~ /^\d+$/ and $ARGV[0] > 0) and ($ARGV[1] =~ /^\d+$/ and $ARGV[1] > 0) ); my ($iterations, $records) = @ARGV; print "\n# . Testing $iterations iterations of $records elements .. +.\n\n"; my %tests = ( Atest => \&test, Btest => \&test, Ctest => \&test, Dtest => \&test, ); cmpthese( 1 , \%tests); # to clear up memory per browseruk cmpthese( $iterations, \%tests); sub test { my @strings = map{ ' ' x 1000 } 1 .. $records; } __END__ # 1. # Testing BrowserUk's second version of script intended # to work around problems in &Benchmark::cmpthese # Perl 5.8.4; Darwin (Mac OS X, version 10.3) # a. Testing 5 iterations of 25000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) Rate Dtest Ctest Btest Atest Dtest 1.05/s -- -2% -3% -64% Ctest 1.07/s 2% -- -2% -63% Btest 1.08/s 3% 2% -- -63% Atest 2.91/s 177% 173% 168% -- Rate Ctest Btest Atest Dtest Ctest 1.04/s -- -0% -0% -0% Btest 1.04/s 0% -- 0% -0% Atest 1.04/s 0% 0% -- -0% Dtest 1.04/s 0% 0% 0% -- # b. Testing 5 iterations of 50000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) s/iter Ctest Dtest Btest Atest Ctest 5.70 -- -0% -0% -85% Dtest 5.70 0% -- -0% -85% Btest 5.69 0% 0% -- -85% Atest 0.859 564% 564% 562% -- s/iter Ctest Btest Dtest Atest Ctest 5.79 -- -0% -1% -1% Btest 5.76 0% -- -1% -1% Dtest 5.72 1% 1% -- -0% Atest 5.71 1% 1% 0% -- # c. Testing 50 iterations of 25000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) Rate Dtest Ctest Btest Atest Dtest 1.05/s -- -2% -3% -64% Ctest 1.07/s 2% -- -2% -63% Btest 1.08/s 3% 2% -- -63% Atest 2.91/s 177% 173% 168% -- Rate Ctest Btest Dtest Atest Ctest 1.02/s -- -0% -1% -1% Btest 1.02/s 0% -- -1% -1% Dtest 1.03/s 1% 1% -- -1% Atest 1.04/s 1% 1% 1% -- # d. Testing 50 iterations of 50000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) s/iter Dtest Ctest Btest Atest Dtest 5.70 -- -0% -0% -85% Ctest 5.70 0% -- -0% -85% Btest 5.69 0% 0% -- -85% Atest 0.859 564% 564% 562% -- s/iter Dtest Atest Ctest Btest Dtest 5.75 -- -0% -1% -1% Atest 5.73 0% -- -0% -1% Ctest 5.72 1% 0% -- -0% Btest 5.70 1% 1% 0% -- # e. Testing 100 iterations of 25000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) Rate Ctest Dtest Btest Atest Ctest 1.05/s -- -0% -3% -62% Dtest 1.05/s 0% -- -3% -62% Btest 1.08/s 3% 3% -- -61% Atest 2.78/s 165% 165% 156% -- Rate Atest Btest Dtest Ctest Atest 1.03/s -- -0% -0% -1% Btest 1.03/s 0% -- -0% -1% Dtest 1.03/s 0% 0% -- -0% Ctest 1.04/s 1% 1% 0% -- # f. Testing 100 iterations of 50000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) s/iter Ctest Dtest Btest Atest Ctest 5.70 -- -0% -0% -85% Dtest 5.70 0% -- -0% -85% Btest 5.70 0% 0% -- -85% Atest 0.875 552% 552% 552% -- s/iter Btest Atest Ctest Dtest Btest 5.75 -- -1% -1% -1% Atest 5.72 1% -- -0% -0% Ctest 5.72 1% 0% -- -0% Dtest 5.70 1% 0% 0% -- # 2. # Testing BrowserUk's second version of script intended # to work around problems in &Benchmark::cmpthese # Perl 5.8.0; Windows2000 Professional # a. Testing 5 iterations of 25000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) Rate Atest Dtest Btest Ctest Atest 1.20/s -- -27% -28% -28% Dtest 1.64/s 36% -- -2% -2% Btest 1.67/s 38% 2% -- -0% Ctest 1.67/s 38% 2% 0% -- Rate Btest Atest Ctest Dtest Btest 1.65/s -- -0% -1% -1% Atest 1.66/s 0% -- -0% -1% Ctest 1.66/s 1% 0% -- -1% Dtest 1.67/s 1% 1% 1% -- # b. Testing 5 iterations of 50000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) s/iter Atest Ctest Dtest Btest Atest 1.61 -- -25% -25% -26% Ctest 1.20 34% -- 0% -1% Dtest 1.20 34% 0% -- -1% Btest 1.19 35% 1% 1% -- s/iter Ctest Dtest Btest Atest Ctest 1.22 -- -0% -1% -1% Dtest 1.21 0% -- -0% -0% Btest 1.21 1% 0% -- -0% Atest 1.21 1% 0% 0% -- # c. Testing 50 iterations of 25000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) Rate Atest Btest Dtest Ctest Atest 1.23/s -- -23% -25% -27% Btest 1.61/s 31% -- -2% -5% Dtest 1.64/s 33% 2% -- -3% Ctest 1.69/s 37% 5% 3% -- Rate Atest Btest Dtest Ctest Atest 1.67/s -- -0% -0% -0% Btest 1.67/s 0% -- -0% -0% Dtest 1.67/s 0% 0% -- -0% Ctest 1.67/s 0% 0% 0% -- # d. Testing 50 iterations of 50000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) s/iter Atest Dtest Ctest Btest Atest 1.61 -- -24% -25% -25% Dtest 1.22 32% -- -1% -2% Ctest 1.21 33% 1% -- -1% Btest 1.20 34% 2% 1% -- s/iter Atest Ctest Btest Dtest Atest 1.21 -- -0% -0% -1% Ctest 1.21 0% -- -0% -1% Btest 1.21 0% 0% -- -1% Dtest 1.20 1% 1% 1% -- # e. Testing 100 iterations of 25000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) Rate Atest Ctest Dtest Btest Atest 1.23/s -- -26% -28% -28% Ctest 1.67/s 35% -- -3% -3% Dtest 1.72/s 40% 3% -- -0% Btest 1.72/s 40% 3% 0% -- Rate Dtest Ctest Btest Atest Dtest 1.66/s -- -0% -1% -1% Ctest 1.67/s 0% -- -1% -1% Btest 1.68/s 1% 1% -- -0% Atest 1.68/s 1% 1% 0% -- # f. Testing 100 iterations of 50000 elements ... (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) (warning: too few iterations for a reliable count) s/iter Atest Ctest Dtest Btest Atest 1.64 -- -26% -26% -27% Ctest 1.22 34% -- -1% -2% Dtest 1.21 36% 1% -- -2% Btest 1.19 38% 3% 2% -- s/iter Btest Ctest Atest Dtest Btest 1.21 -- -0% -0% -0% Ctest 1.21 0% -- -0% -0% Atest 1.21 0% 0% -- -0% Dtest 1.20 0% 0% 0% --

      System Info: same as in previous posting